Venue: Walton Suite, Guildhall, Winchester and streamed live on YouTube at www.youtube.com/winchestercc.
Contact: Nancy Graham, Senior Democratic Services Officer Tel: 01962 848 235, Email: ngraham@winchester.gov.uk
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Apologies To record the names of apologies given.
Minutes:
There were no apologies received. |
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Disclosure of Interests To receive any disclosure of interests from Councillors or Officers in matters to be discussed. Note: Councillors are reminded of their obligations to declare disclosable pecuniary interests (DPIs), other registerable interests (ORIs) and non-registerable interests (NRIs) in accordance with the Council’s Code of Conduct.
Minutes:
Councillors Tod and Porter declared disclosable pecuniary interests in respect of various items on the agenda due to their role as Hampshire County Councillors. However, as there was no material conflict of interest, they remained in the room, spoke and voted under the dispensation granted on behalf of the Audit and Governance Committee to participate and vote in all matters which might have a County Council involvement. </AI3>
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Public Participation
– to note the names of members of the public wishing to speak on agenda items (representations will normally be received at the time of the agenda item, after the Cabinet Member’s introduction and any questions from Cabinet Members). NB members of the public are required to register with Democratic Services three clear working days before the meeting (contact: democracy@winchester.gov.uk or 01962 848 264). Minutes:
There were no members of the public registered to speak. |
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Local Government Re-organisation: Final proposal for Hampshire & Isle of Wight Additional documents:
Decision: 1. That views of council have been reviewed by Cabinet following the consideration of the submission ‘close enough to be local, big enough to stay strong’ at Full Council 24 September 2025.
2. That the full proposal to government at Appendix 4 of report CAB3515 be approved, including the council’s primary support for Option 2 within the proposal, for submission to Government by the 26 September 2025 deadline
4. That it be noted that council has agreed that in the event of minor changes being necessary to the proposal, if they are agreed by all 12 councils, that the Leader, in consultation with the Chief Executive is authorised to agree such amendments on behalf of Winchester City Council.
Minutes:
Councillor Tod advised that the report had been debated at Council the previous evening and a copy of the draft notes of that meeting had been circulated to all councillors present at Cabinet. In summary, he stated that no alternative proposals had been submitted, it was essential that a decision was made by the government deadline and there was a majority support for Option 2 as outlined in the report. In addition, the public engagement response indicated a preference for Option 2. At Council, concerns had been raised around the level of detail of the financial modelling, which would be explored further at this Cabinet meeting. In addition, there were other matters raised that would be considered at a later stage of the process such as consideration of how we manage risk, how we factor the environment into future plans, how to address the challenge of a potential democratic deficit from reduced councilor numbers and larger authorities, and how to protect the mayoralty.
At the invitation of the Leader, Councillors Lee, Godfrey and Bolton addressed Cabinet as summarised briefly below.
Councillor Lee Councillor Lee stated that he remained unconvinced by the proposal, believing the suggested new authority would not be local and would be too large. He proposed a compromise that the council submit Option 2 as its preferred "least worst” option but simultaneously request a pause in the process to allow for a more balanced assessment. He justified this by highlighting several concerns, including the lack of a mandated climate impact assessment, the absence of a risk register, the potential for a democratic deficit with oversized councils, and concerns regarding the timing and meaningfulness of the public consultation.
Councillor Godfrey Councillor Godfrey expressed concern about the lack of detailed financial information provided to the cabinet relating to the projected savings of £63.9 million, whilst accepting assurances regarding the quality of work undertaken by the council’s Section 151 officer. He highlighted the significant difference between this figure and Hampshire County Council’s (HCC) forecast, which predicted nearly £95 million less in savings annually. He contended that without access to the detailed models, Cabinet could not determine if the new authority would be financially sustainable or express a clear preference for an option and generally advised a more cautious approach on predicted savings. In addition, on behalf of Councillor Horrill who was unable to attend the meeting, he queried what would happen if option three (now Option 1A) was put forward by the government and Newlands parish did not want to be moved out of the mid-Hants authority?
Councillor Bolton Councillor Bolton acknowledged that while residents welcomed the simplification of moving to a unitary system, they remained concerned about local identity and a potential democratic deficit. His primary concern was the lack of granularity of data and the high model risk associated with the financial projections. He cited the reorganisation in Cumbria as a cautionary tale of overestimated savings and underestimated costs, warning that poor financial outcomes can lead to service failures. ... view the full minutes text for item 4. |